Aoun: I Will Reject Any Law besides Orthodox Proposal that Does Not Offer Fair Representation

ther filthy zionist scum is unhappy that karami survived and want to compare the real assasination attempt with hallucinatory ones (like on lady gaga)

the real joke is that you waste air for breathing

Motormouth.....your "Zionist' phobia that has been drilled into your empty skull by HA/Iran simply shows through all your post what a demented and ignorant fool you are. Take your fear and conditioned mind elsewhere and leave Lebanon and Lebanese in peace. No one in Lebanon is fearing the Zionist. We seem to doing just fine. But what we all are fearing are the scums HA and their agenda that comes from Iran. Get the ^%&^$^%@ our of Lebanon...you and you peasants followers!

How can we build a country if we react as such to political opponents. A democracy needs opponent that respect each others. Your remark, which is actually often the attitude of Aoun, shows that we are in fact fighting each others which will lead to no where.

The answer is that the cabinet won't take a decision to disarm no one because it does no good to Hizbullah. Hizbullah wants the proliferation of weapons so that the state remains weak allowing the Hizb to dominate. The infamous alliance with Aoun is allowing Hizbullah to implement this very plot against our country.

the filthy zionist scum want to compare filthy wahabi fanatical criminals with our glorious resistance.

the filthy zionist is not happy because health and memory serve michel aoun well

the filthy zionist scum think other people run away from their conscience like he does

"in 2005 syrians left lebanon so they are no longer enemies"

so by that logic, neither are the israelis.

no one really cares what the M8 apologists think any more--I have the same disdain for Israeli policies on Lebanon as I do for the Syrian ones.

And stop supporting this failed government. They are the government of no: no electricity, no security, no money and no credibility. Of course, it is always some else's fault, so throw in no accountability in there also.

the filthy zionist the filthy zionist the filthy zionist the filthy zionist the filthy zionist.....

Mowaten, I know who Israel is and they don't hide it. I can respect that. Syria however, has pretended to be our friend, but its actions have shown us otherwise. Ask my grandmother's neighbor--the poor 70 year old woman still holds out hope that her son taken by the Syrians some 20 years ago is still alive someone. One of my uncles was beaten up so bad by the Syrians that he still can't talk right.

If Syria is such a great neighbor, why have formal diplomatic relations been in place for only 4 years? Why have so many anti Syrian figures been assassinated compared to prosyrian ones? My reason for disdain has its reasons. If you were to remove the names from what the Israelis and Syrians have done to this country, you would have a hard time distinguishing which one is worse. I call a spade a spade--I don't give a rat's ass if people don't see that. Bottom line: syrians have killed more lebanese than israelis--those are the facts.

jabal habal, you are an idiot...

FT,

Shabaa was taken by Israel after the '67 war. In 1973, there was another on. From 1975-1993 there was a civil war followed by a Syrian occupation until 2005.

Now it takes two to tango: which party did you expect to bring this up--the ones from 1944-1967, the ones from 1967-1975, or the ones from 2005 to now, because I haven't heard a word from this cabinet about demarcation or Shabaa farms as it relates to Syria.

Sorry about bring facts to an allegation party

@jabal10452

I have been advocating this for a while. Great proposition that indeed has been a topic of discussion in academic circles.

As a liberal, I would like to see complete separation between religion and state, but I realize that right now this may be unrealistic. Perhaps the creation of an Upper Chamber as you propose is to me the best possible proposition.

@ jabal10452
A senate as envisioned in the Taef is a good thing. Only thing I would add and insist on is that it not be just for show. This chamber needs to be endowed constitutionally with powers similar to the US senate if it is to work and be effective.

Like it or not, we are a sectarian society my and some of our desires for secularism notwithstanding. Therefore, this chamber should represent the sectarian demography of Lebanon and be empowered to counter balance the parliament and the dictatorial tendencies of parliament speaker(s).

Sad but true lol

FT, the FPM and the LF proposed electoral laws that have the same goal: protecting the Christian influence in the country. Whichever law we end with, it will become obsolete in the foreseeable future due to the relentless change in demographics in favor of our Muslim compatriots. Lebanon was once created as a safe haven for the Christians in Mount Lebanon. Too many people don't like to bring it up but that's the way it is. This is in the psyche of all Christians parties in both political currents. The spirit of this principle needs to be preserved, but not necessarily at the cost of proper representation in Parliament. This is why I argue for an Upper Chamber where Christians and Muslims are equally represented regardless of demographics, and a Lower Chamber elected according to proportional representation.

@flamethrower

FPM ran on an electoral platform in 2009 that advocated secularism, and to me that was enough to garner my support and what differentiated them from other parties (such as LF/Kataeb). But proposing this Orthodox Law violates that principle. I understand that one has to be pragmatic and realistic, but becoming pragmatic and trying to advocate what is politically possible should not give one a license to violate their values.

I one of FPM's values and principles that the party cannot violate was secularism, but this Orthodox Law is a liberal's and secular's worst nightmare, and would only increase division and unaccountability.

The 1960 electoral law is flawed (indeed any law is flawed if it exists inside a sectarian political system), but the proposed alternative does not seem to be any better.