Aoun: Arms Present under State Control Not Enough to Put Lebanese at Ease
إقرأ هذا الخبر بالعربيةFree Patriotic Movement leader MP Michel Aoun noted on Tuesday that Lebanon enjoys a deterrent power, embodied in the equation of the army, people, and Resistance, capable of defending the country against an Israeli attack.
He said after the weekly Change and Reform bloc meeting: “This equation won’t end until the Arab-Israeli conflict is resolved, which is very difficult under the current Israeli and American policies.”
“Israel does not want peace … if we abandon resistance and surrender, the country will be permanently destroyed,” he remarked.
On Monday’s Wazzani clashes between the Lebanese and Israeli armies, the MP said: “We congratulate the army on the occasion of Army Day and we wish it constant success, especially since we have an enemy that continuously reminds us that the army is the guarantee for Lebanon’s stability and independence.”
Aoun pointed out however: “The arms present under the state’s control are not enough to put the Lebanese at ease.”
He clarified however that this is not a response to Maronite Patriarch Beshara al-Rahi’s statements on Monday who said that the Lebanese people are uneasy with the spread of arms outside the state’s authority.
“The army alone is not capable of defending Lebanon and neither is Hizbullah,” he remarked.
“We refuse to rely on international resolution,” he stressed.
On the national dialogue, the FPM leader voiced his support for the talks, hoping that the agenda be determined in advance to tackle the defense strategy.
The last time dialogue was held, the defense strategy was about to be addressed, but the talks veered off course to tackle Hizbullah’s arms, he noted.
Addressing the developments in Syria, Aoun said: “Security forces have the right to defend themselves when they are fired at.”
“The constitution allows for freedom of demonstration, not the freedom to riot. The Syrian security forces are suppressing riots, not protests,” he added.
He also voiced his support for reform in Syria.
In addition, he stated that international interests are at play in Syria because it is the key to several issues in the region.
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02 August 2011, 17:18
MP Aoun: The arms present under the state’s control are not enough to put the Lebanese at ease. This is not a response to the Patriarch’s statements.
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02 August 2011, 17:17
MP Aoun: I will announce my position on ISF chief Rifi’s appointment. I support proportional representation in parliamentary elections.
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02 August 2011, 17:16
MP Aoun: The opposition meeting in Syria demonstrated that it is driven by international or Arab agendas against Syria because it is the key to peace with Israel.
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02 August 2011, 17:14
MP Aoun: The opposition has grown accustomed to lying to the people.
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02 August 2011, 17:13
MP Aoun on whether he supports military action in Syria: The constitution allows the freedom to demonstrate, not the freedom to riot. The Syrian security forces are suppressing riots, not protests. We support the Syrian people’s call for reform.
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02 August 2011, 17:12
MP Aoun on Syrian developments: Security forces have the right to defend themselves if they are fired at. This happens all over the world.
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02 August 2011, 17:10
MP Aoun: Everyone is taking advantage of the state to achieve their own interests. No one can cover up his bad history. Whoever is violating the law will be forced to respect it.
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02 August 2011, 17:05
MP Aoun: Surrendering instead of resisting will permanently destroy us. Israel does not want peace.
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02 August 2011, 17:03
MP Aoun: We support national dialogue as the army alone cannot defend the nation and neither can the Resistance.
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02 August 2011, 17:02
FPM leader MP Michel Aoun after Change and Reform bloc’s weekly meeting: Whoever is demanding that the army alone defend the nation should provide it with its needs.
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02 August 2011, 17:00
MP Aoun: Yesterday’s incident is normal as we are aware of Israel’s hostility. We have an idea of the solidarity between the army, people, and Resistance, who serve as deterrent powers against Israel.
Assad will fall, and Aoun the clown here will deny ever having defended him today. It's sad, because this guy once had some moral courage.
This man is ridiculous, he has lost all legitamscy just like his Syrian pimp. He's a Syrian tool in the utmost definition of the word. Le general; you do realize it is illogical to support the butchering of the Syrian people AND their call for reforms at the same time? Has Nadia gone as crazy as u? Smebody needs to lock this man in a nursing home and never let him out he is clearly out of his mind
Here we go again: The Weekly Horror Show...ok!
MP Aoun on whether he supports military action in Syria: The constitution allows the freedom to demonstrate, not the freedom to riot. The Syrian security forces are suppressing riots, not protests. We support the Syrian people’s call for reform.
Did you and your supporters demonstrate in 2007-2009 or riot??? Burning tires, blocking roads, erecting sand barricades on roads, and eventually declaring war on Beirut and its residents is considered demonstrating and not rioting (and not a criminal act) huh?
History has already judged you as a worthless failed individual both politically and morally.
And to you FPM loyalists: does this man actually make sense to you?? Or do u just follow him like sheep? Did u people not realize how his stance has completely shifted since his release? He went from the top Syrian opposer even to the extent of blaming Syria for the slaying of rafic Hariri on national French TV, to joining the Anti zionist-amewikkan axis! You people are either as senile as ur leader or just a flock of empty headed sheep.
@ithinkthere14iam,.. I am with you and thumbs up to all your comments... It's progressive people like us that can move our country forward... Lets keep up the pressure on these destroyers like this crazy man and his gargoyle followers... Gemayel and Geagea are the rocks of Lebanon and the true representatives of Lebanese Christians... The Aounist movement will disappear with Aoun's retirement.. It is after all based upon an obsession with a man and not a country or idealogy. For the Aounists, Michel Aoun's retirement would be like breaking up with a girlfriend... They might try follow Gebran Bassil on the rebound...
was Hamzah the teenager whose penis was cut off while he was alive a rioter or a demonstrator protected by the constitution, Mr. ex-General? Was the singer in Hama who sang "Irhal Anna Ya Bashar" and was kidnapped the very same evening he sang that song and later found dead with his throat slit and his vocals removed a rioter or a demonstrator? Was the 18 months old baby who was killed yesterday a rioter too? Over 250 children have been killed so far in the uprising, were they also rioters Ya Generale....? Wlak just for the sake of human decency of which you have none, SHUT THE **** UP!
MP Aoun on Syrian developments: Security forces have the right to defend themselves if they are fired at. This happens all over the world.
You never cease to amaze..... ! What happened to the lebanese security forces when they opened fire on the thugs of Amal and Hizbullah in Chiyah after these thugs disarmed the soldiers???? You were demanding the officers who gave the orders to fire on the thugs be brought to justice and disciplined.....!!! It is getting sick to have to remind you of your not so distant stances. Now, you have to go out of your way to defend the barbaric acts of the syrian regime; acts which the whole world regardless of its political stances have acknowledged as being repressive! What kind of hired gun are you? I feel sorry for those who vote for a person like you..... what a shame. People like you depress me and make me feel there is no hope in this country...
La force tranquille ! That's what we can say about GMA today . Lebanon is in good hands , no place for corruption or thieves anymore .
For the ones that have nothing else but insults , that shows your " état d'esprit " now that you are completly out , and for many many years to come .
Try to have better arguments , if you want US to answer you or to have a serious dialogue HERE or around a table , like your leaders of yesterday that have become " has been " keep asking for .
This dialogue is another " dialogue de sourds " .. Enjoy yourselves in the sun , and have a good tan , you will need it , because the coming news will make you look pale , grenn and yellow soon ...
MP Aoun: Everyone is taking advantage of the state to achieve their own interests. No one can cover up his bad history.
Yes, Aoun how true your words are.... No one can cover up his BAD history..... not even you!
Well excuse me Mr. Aoun but first we don't agree on many issues. If the resistance is substantial against the enemy and the national army is not enough than i think that the lebanese forces should have also been substantial against what you declared as an enemy which by all means was syria back in the 1980s and then the war of the 1989 is no longer justified and then you have a lot to explain to the mothers of the slain soldiers, some of whom are still with an ignored fate. That doesn't mean that i agree with the LF but astonishingly most of the LF murderers stand by your side and i think will stand by the side of any new winner. Nader Sukkar, Georges Kassab, Kareem Bakradouni, do those names ring a bell, i am not pointing that the FPM shares the same characteristics as those spiraling figures, but i am pointing to the fact that those figures are always there to take advantage whenever lebanese are apart so please lebanese leaders, sit on one table, do not rely on those messengers
General is right. The army alone cannot defend the nation and neither can hizb-el-shitan. We should invite the syrians back to Lebanon and while at it also invite Iran. They have a great record of fighting against the greatest enemy, their own people.
There is something astonishing about the leaders of this country. Whenever someone of March 14 addresses issues of syria he is automatically accused of violating syrian sovereignty but today Mr Aoun do not violate syrian sovereignty by addressing the "internal issue" of syria. As well Mr. Saad Hariri took the same path with different directions, two days ago he supported the syrian people against "the tyranny" of the government. The truth is that liberty does not know boundaries and that everyone should be allowed to speak freely but with decency. This does not mean interference, this means compassion. Then we should attain the understanding that interference occur when an external party contributes with an internal party in a manner that contradicts the law in practice, and that is far of what is going on now
FPM leader MP Michel Aoun after Change and Reform bloc’s weekly meeting: Whoever is demanding that the army alone defend the nation should provide it with its needs.
Are you saying then it is ok if Egypt, KSA, Argentine, USA, or China provide a certain sect in lebanon with arms under the pretext of defending the nation and make the privilege of "resistence"exclusive to that sect? Has it occurred to you with the provisions of free weapons there is a hegemony that is implied and actually demanded? Perhaps, you don't think that far.....!
Also canaanite: I agree. FPM has no future and it is truly a party of one COWARD. Basil will never win e hearts of the dummies in FPM, and these sad former ouwet w kataeb followers will soon be back with the sensible majority, or fall with their sinking ship
Canaanite: thank you for the thumbs, and I as well completely agree with you. Though amine is not as strong and as tough with his rhetoric as geagea, the both of them are still, like you said, the rock of Lebanese politics and truly represent the PROGRESIVE christians. Kataeb has a very nice future, Sami is becoming a man nd he is becoming a lil hybrid of his brother and sheikh bashir. Nadim is breaking out of his shell, and I see this man to do everything he can to make th Lebanon his father wanted so much. Lebanon be grateful, without the young men of kataeb w ouwet (and of course let's not forget our brothers mustaqbal) the international community would have given up on Lebanon a loooong time ago. Long live e fantastic m14 trio
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=WFmoINybxaU
For those who haven't seen the FPM leader accusing Syria of killing rafic Hariri, the link is above! Pease share with ur FPM buddies! Spread the truth people
THIS GUY IS INSANE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! shame on him !! how can he defend what the syrian regime is doing ??? He is also saying now that the people are uncomfortable with the sole protection of the army ?!! he wasnt exactly of that opinion when the christian area was surrounded by the syrians and he decided to disarm the lebanese forces nonetheless. Not that i am a fan of the LF but i cant help but noticing that this guy changes his speech according to his own interests. He has no moral values, he is simply disgusting!! It is really beyond me that any christian lebanese can vote for this charlatan... this is really sad ...
Michel AOUN aux libanais.
Libanais, pauvres imbéciles, comprenez-moi,
Grâce au BOTOX, j’ai rajeuni, regardez-moi,
Pour vous séduire et vous tromper il n’y a que moi,
Toutes les femmes qui me voient tombent en émoi.
Oui, comprenez, il n’y a que moi, il n’y a que moi.
Ne me demandez pas de penser à vos fins de mois,
Pour compter tout mon argent, il n’y a que moi,
Pour vous vendre au plus offrant, il n’y que moi.
Réjouissez-vous, réjouissez-vous, pour moi,
GEBRAN, le mari de ma fille est mon gendre à moi,
Il est toujours ministre et ne le doit qu’à moi,
Allez laissez-vous faire, adorez-moi.
Peu importe que vous soyez réduits en esclavage,
Que vos enfants quittent pour d’autres rivages,
Puisque c’est moi qui en profite, toujours moi,
Et qu’un jour GEBRAN continuera comme moi.
When will these "leaders" stop underestimating the intelligence of the Lebanese and Arab people and realize that fear tactics don't work anymore? No one is scared of Israel or the US or HA or Iran or Syria anymore. In fact I truly believe that Lebanon will be a much stronger state today if we had no weapons at all than weapons in the hands of the radicals. All the weapons are doing is giving Israel an excuse to attack our land. Lay down the weapons and the whole world will support us and force Israel to back away from our affairs.
Idontthinkthere4ihaveasamigemayel picture is back. It's so stupid to watch these M14 address the syrian issue and condemn it like their hearts and souls are with the Syrian people, you're only praying for russian and chinese condemnation so you'd be powerful like once upon a time. Depending on foreign developments to empower you domestically, M14 is a joke, the best one.
And to you phalangistsand LF fanatics, it's 2011. Really, it's been more than 22 years. Your history is far behind you and we all know your political weight. 9 total MPs; give or take a few years and Wiah Wahhab will be as popular in Lebanon lol. The resistance has the thumbs up by the lebanese majority and all you can do is keep crying and whining.
We are led mostly by murderers, fanatics, gangsters, schizophrenics, and sick guys on the fringe of Alzheimer...... the would be general is only a puppet who will vanish in the abyss of history. The same for his master in Damascus who will hopefully be judged for mass murder. Finally, the Lebanese army can do the job on its own provided no militia and "resistance fighters" are there to bugg us all....
SHN put GMA in charge of answering Abou Samir Rahi's comments yesterday about the "constitutional institutions, the security forces, and army" equation.
Again we do not blame this power crazed self centered fool but we do blame those who follow him. They should take a step back and look at how demaning it is to have a leader such as Aoun.
Anyone who alines himself with the butcher of damascus does not belong in a civilized community. Have the courage and step away from this fool before he destroys all what is left.
One would think that a politician, who actually believed that our military was of insufficent strength to protect us, would be be calling for us to strengthen our military. If that politician is a former head of our Army you would think this doubly so!
But not old GMA, he thinks a lawless militia outside state control is the way to go. Way to honor our Army you traitor.
Insanity.
This guy is bipolar, back in the years when syria was in control, his members were getting kidnapped and beat senselessly and arrested. Now, he actually supports these things because they are "riots". seriously i think he has issues.
It wont end until the Arab-Israeli conflict is over. He is turning into a parrot repeating what Nasrallah says. This means that this situation will never end, HA will always have weapons because the conflict is not going to end. I dont want to be part of the Arab-Israeli conflict. I want to be part of Building a prosperous Lebanon, a Lebanon without conflict built on laws.
“Security forces have the right to defend themselves when they are fired at.”
We didn't hear you say that when Hizb fired at Lebanese Army helicopter and killed its pilot, or when they beat up security forces dong their job in Dahieh, or when they fired at civilians on May 7, ...
And no leb4all,the majority of Lebanese don't agree with the resistance. Mustaqbal alone is the majority of Lebanese, and they all say NO to your weapons! Open ur eyes and look around u, ur only friends r the Shiite and idiot gma sheep. What a bright group of friends!
Leb4all you are a complete FOOL! m8 runs on Syrian and Iranian $$$ and slaps on the behind, So do not point a finger which can be pointed at yourself. M14 doesn't take handouts nor are they subjects to another power, we are progressive open minded people whom stand fir what's right. Supporting 2 regimes that suppress and kill their people is clearly only for those who benefit from these tyrants. If it was any other way, tell us why support Assad or Iran? How do u benefit from countries who can barely feed theirnown people? Whom's economy is hundreds of years behind? If u want to be oppressed go ahead, catch abtaxi to Damascus. But Lebanon? Our Lebanon? Is a land of plurality and freedom.
This guy is so weird! He keeps on compromising himself and his followers to positions that are geting more extreem and more stupid by the day. People should realise that if he thinks what happens in Syria is within the limits of legitimacy, should he be in a power position in Lebanon he would to the Lebanese what Assad is doing to the Syrians! He is indecent and almost dangerous.
Thanks for removing my Deir al saleeb post naharnet, nice to know m8 supporters can wish death upon my heroes but I am not allowed to say a crazy lunatic belongs in a crazy house
Undoubtedly, Hariri father spread a lot of money, but also made a lot of money through Solidere (and robbed indirectly many).
Undoubtedly, some of the "traditional" Christian parties lost credibility in insisting to have kids (Gemayel) keep the leadership.
Undoubtedly, without the millions from Iran, HA will not have the wide "support" amongst its religious group.
And, undoubtedly, most of the GMA fans are amongst those desilusioned above, and their anger, rage is feeding their blindness to what this schizoprenic man is doing to destroy our beloved country.
@ Idontthinkthere4imretarded:
You said M14 are not subjects to another power, then explain to me, why was there a 10m2 picture of the Saudi king on your M14 rally???
You say M8 are not the majority. Do you know that the shiites are 37% of the population, do you know that Aoun has a 53% popular majority amongst the christians? Do you know that Frangieh is not counted in the 53%? Do you know that 30% of the Druze were with M8 before Jumblatt's latest shift? So tell me doesn't that all make around 60-70% of are you just retarded? You said "Our Lebanon". You know that the retard's party you have in your pic let the palestinians in OUR Lebanon and started the problem. Had there been no Gemayel's, no HA, no SYRIA, no problems. 2al mustaqbal is the majority of lebanese, you definitely have IQ of a slipper and I pity you, the weak minority.
You proved my point exactly by pointing to Iran and Syria's economies to prove a point. Again, you look at external factors who you think are exactly tied to Lebanon. So wait, since the USA is drowning in debt and increasing the debt ceiling, it makes perfect sense we're drowning in debt too considering we were their allies under the previous governments right? OR wait, we're supposed to be as rich as Saudi since your Mustaqbal boys are their puppets right? The economies are never linked in these situations. Your arguments are flawed and you need many lessons in demographics and politics starting with ur mustaqbal are the majority argument. Here's a census taken in 1986, the last one since after the Taef, no censuses were officialy taken and we both know how much the Shia reproduce, and if you need proof GMA has 53%, I'll be glad to drop more knowledge on you. http://www.gl.iit.edu/govdocs/maps/Lebanon%27s%20main%20Religious%20Groups.gif
Should the coward be more concerned about defending the right of Christians to own land in Lebanon without having it confiscated by the Islamic Resistance in Lebanon under the pretext that it it part of the Resistance effort.
The truth is neither the army nor Hizballah can stand against Israel. All this talk is bull sh-t. What we need is peace with Israel.I think peace will happen as soon as the government in Syria changes hands.
I'm appalled. You lost the argument and got a little personal I see, "fuck head" and other insults, it's okay, it only shows your standard :). Now let me start dropping more knowledge on you, you won in 09 so you are the popular majority right? My retarded friend, Lebanon goes by electoral districts in their voting system. That doesn't infer a popular voting system. Some areas might be less populated but have more parliamentary seats. Popular majority means majority of the population which M8 has because as I stated the Shiites are the biggest sect and Aoun and Frangieh together hold more than 60% of the christian votes. Now, you seem to love America and tend to think they will solve Lebanon's problems. Did they pay our debt? Did they help at least? Don't we still need visas to visit their country? Did they say anything that helps our case in our gas fields? Did they give our army weapons to defend ourselves against the Israelis? Didn't they terminate arms transfers after our army
defended itself at the border last summer? Did they kick out the Syrians for us while we were being kicked and bashed by them (Thank you LF fo inviting them BTW)? Did America at LEAST help us get 3G connection which they've had for a long time and I'm not being greedy and askng for 4G here! Moving on, it's propaganda the reason you had the Saudi king's picture right? The owner of the building loves Saudi so he hanged that picture? hahahhahahahahahaha you are so retarded I feel like Einstein. Another retarded comment by you, America can not default and it didn't bla bla bla.. Do you know that they had to amend their constitution to pass that bill or else it would've defaulted. If you were watching Nancy Pelosi address the house today, she even said I don't approve of it but we have no choice. America is drowning in debt, and attacking Iran was an option and it will never be again. They don't have the money to sustain their army during the war and the price of oil will go up drastically.
It's enough that China owns 60% of the US debt and they're panicking. On a more serious note now, thank you. Really I first thought I was misjudging you by your pic but you definitely proved me right that you are demented :). Now, go back to your bashing, ranting, whining and moaning about how hard it is being under M8 control but it's always gonna be this way and if you have a problem go to Martyr's square and wave your flag, because in the end, that's all you can do you little bird.
U have way too much time on ur hands. U started personal attacks, so idk what ur complaining about. Instead of personally attacking everything u pointed out (which is laugahably wrong), u can do this for me: what POSITIVE things have syria done in Lebanon? Key word POSITIVE, p-o-s-I-t-I-ve. Eno; not killing politicial foes, killing and raping civilians, and exploiting our natural resources ;)
Nit that the Americans basically completely equipped our army, not that our police is fully equipped with American gear, not that the Americans have helped countless generations of Lebanese the best education in the world, nit that America has developed Lebanon's embarrassing agriculture and environment sector. Where is the Syrian HELP? Where is the IRANIAN? and buddy, pumping hezbollah with $$ nd missiles and paying the general's bills doesn't count ;)
U hate America so much? Taeb, don't speak English don't watch American tv don't eat American food don't wear American clothes, etc etc.
Just do as the rat does, hide in a hole and wrap yourself in a towel. Enjoy life to the fullest! :)
The Free Lebanese: Arms Present under militia Control Do Not Put Lebanese at Ease.
The Lebanese Army and Only The Lebanese Army
If the army's weapons are not enough to put the lenaeses citizens at ease, then maybe all lebanese parties should get mobilized and armed. will that put you at ease idiot.
Mowaten, an easy one for you: if Bashar has the support of the majority of Syrian why doesn't he call for elections?
I see plenty of guys here are asking themselves who the majority is in lebanon? wether it is March 8 or March 14, guys please the chronicles of that issue are becoming so boring, get over it. First lets admit that relatively the numbers you all interpret if red properly only means that March 14 and March 8 are relatively with the same popularity. But please don't forget that this debate is useless. Can we start debating where do we want our country to be 20 years from now instead of quarreling each others about who has the largest popularity. I think that what unites both 14 march and 8 march is that they are both hungry even starving, penniless and soon homeless, why? because they are using their energy and brain to come up with the best excuses to defend their political figures rather than do their critical thinking
ça n'a pas de sens la resistance du hezbollah tout seul, s'il ya danger il faut armer tout le peuple sinon l'armee suffit. dire que le liban a besoin de la resistance des sciites seulement est inacceptable. Ceux qui trouvent indispensable les armes du Hezbollah et ne cherchent pas a armer leurs hommes sont des hyppocrites
Leb4all, when you want to say something please refer to real facts not what your parents tell you , the PALESTINIANS were settled in Lebanon after the CAIRO agreement, in 69 by General emile boustani and yasser arafat, and so the palestinian camps began... it was not the Gemayels that brought them so stop your bullshit.
- Second, Pierre Gemayel the father didnt not invite Syria, it was already inside Lebanon by controlling a militia called JEICH TA7RIR EL PHALASTINI, which was causing more problems than the PLO, and was SYRIA's idea so it can bug Lebanon and we would ask her to make them stop, but rather than just stopping them, they entered with their own army.
- Third,after all the attacks on churchs and our lands, christian had to defend themselves, hadnt been for the LF and Phalangist, you would be buried a long time ago my friend, and Frangieh's Marada were between the first people to enter the war with us in 75 against those ennemies before the killing of tony frangieh.
The LFs and Phalangist protected Lebanon, while the world was against us, France , USA, all sold us out to the Syrians which armed palestinians as well so they can all share our Lebanon. Where were you my friend when they destroyed our downtown, our lands, raped our women, acted above the autority installed which was our army, where were you? of course, you can deny the fact, since you are with the same kind of people that are ruining Lebanon today. And why should the US help you ? you bombed 360 of their marines in 82 attack of hezbollah, so they withdrawed any kind of support to us, because of terrorism, but must i remind you that before 75, direct flights wre available to Lebanon from US cities, so stop your hate, and your dear Hezb is infiltrated by the people you dispise, Mossad and CIA, they are dining daily inside your friend nasrallah's sewers 1232 underground. he talked about them then the case disappeared? what did he do to them? what a load of crap