عون يشيد بتحديد العلاقة بين المقاومة والقوات المسلحة ضمن تصور سليمان
Read this story in Englishرأى رئيس "التيار الوطني الحر" النائب ميشال ان تصور رئيس الجمهورية ميشال سليمان حول الاستراتيجية الدفاعية، "تقنياً"، مشيداً بتحديده العلاقة بين المقاومة والقوات المسلحة. وشدد على ضرورة اجراء الانتخابات، رافضاً التمديد لرئيس الجمهورية او اعادة انتخابه.
وفي حديث الى صحيفة "ألاخبار" رأى عون، ان تصور سليمان حول الاستراتيجية، هو "ورقة عمل تقنية، ما عدا فقرة واحدة، التي تحدد اطار العلاقة بين القوات المسلحة والمقاومة"، مشددا على ان هذه "الفكرة صحيحة مئة في المئة".
واوضح أن "الجيش اللبناني لا يمكن ان يكون له في اي حال من الاحوال القدرة على مواجهة اي فريق في المحيط. لذا يجب وجود تكامل بين العمل العسكري والمقاومة".
واشار عون، في حديثه لـ"الاخبار" الى ان "الجيش حارس الحدود وهو القوة الضاربة الوحيدة الداخلية في الحالات العادية التي تقاوم الارهاب وتدعم قوى الامن في مكافحة الجريمة"، الا انه في حال "تعرض لبنان لأي عدوان، فإن الجيش لن يستطيع الدفاع والثبات في القتال نسبة الى موازيين القوى المتوافرة، وخصوصاً اسرائيل، هنا يبدأ عمل المقاومة لتحرير الأرض".
وقال ان "رئيس الجمهورية اعطى اطارا عاما وأنا أقدم فكرتي". ورداً على ان قوى 14 آذار رفضت هذه الورقة لأنها تعترف بـ"حزب الله" كمؤسسة أمنية، شدد على ان "دور المقاومة ليس امنياً. بل في حال حدوث خطر امني، ولم يتمكن الجيش من المقاومة وانكفأ، حينها تكون المقاومة الاسلوب الوحيد الذي يستطيع مواجهة جيش نظامي، لأنها خلايا متدربة على قتال العصابات".
وفي جلسة الحوار الوطني التي عقدت الخميس في بعبدا، وزع سليمان على المتحاورين ورقة تتضمن طرحه حول الاستراتيجية الدفاعية، اثر الجلسة، وفي بيان صادر عن المتحاورين، تم التوافق على "ضرورة اعتبار التصور الذي قدمه سليمان حول الاستراتيجية الدفاعية منطلقا للمناقشة، مع التشديد على ضرورة المحافظة على ديناميكية الحوار".
وتم تحديد 12 تشرين الثاني المقبل موعدا جديدا للحوار. وستقوم كافة القوى بدرس تصور سليمان على ان تبدي رأيها تباعا.
وخلال حديث الى "الاخبار"، سئل عون عن انه "اذا أرادت ايران استخدام حزب الله للرد على اسرائيل للدفاع عن مصالحها، فلن يكون ذلك بمثابة حرب ضد الاحتلال؟"، فرد عون، قائلاً ان "اسرائيل تقصد بحربها على ايران، حرباً ضد طهران و"حزب الله" وسوريا، اذ ان مناوراتها في الشمال هي ضد هؤلاء الثلاثة".
وتابع "انا لا اعرف اذا كان في نيتها ذلك ام لا، لكن لا احد يستطيع ان يؤكد العكس، فاذا كانت اسرائيل ترى ان الثلاثة جبهة واحدة، فمصلحتها ان تضرب ايران ثم سوريا ومن ثم حزب الله، أي بالتقسيط".
واردف، قائلاً "أنا والحزب متفقان على أن السلاح هو للدفاع عن الارض اللبنانية. هذا الاتفاق مكتوب". فسئل عما اذا تم خرق هذا الاتفاق وجرى الدفاع عن المصالح الإيرانية لا اللبنانية، كما تقول 14 آذار، فلفت الى ان "هذا اعطاء نيات لحزب لبناني يدافع عن الخارج. ألا يدافعون هم عمن يدعمونهم في سوريا، وعن السعودية وتركيا. كلنا متفقون على أن المخاطر الاسرائيلية تشمل الارض والمياه وتوطين الفلسطينيين".
ونقلت وكالة "مهر" الإيرانية للأنباء، الاسبوع الفائت، عن المستشار الاعلى للقائد العام للقوات المسلحة اللواء يحيى صفوي قوله "اذا قام الكيان الصهيوني يوما ما بأي خطوة ضدنا، فإن مجموعات المقاومة وخاصة حزب الله، سترد بكل سهولة على هذا الكيان، باعتبارها تشكل عمق دفاعنا الاستراتيجي".
من جانب آخر، شدد عون، في حديثه الى "الاخبار" على ضرورة اجراء الانتخابات النيابية، مشيراً الى ان 14 آذار هي من له مصلحة في تطيير الانتخابات، وقال "نحن اتفقنا مع جزء من المسيحيين على مشروعين، اللقاء الأرثوذكسي والنسبية، وهم يريدون 15 دائرة، فقلنا لهم تكرموا".
واردف "نحن نريد أن نكشف النيات لأنهم يضحكون على الناس"، مشيراً الى ان "مشروع اللقاء الأرثوذكسي هو طرح القوات والكتائب، نحن طرحنا النسبية بأي شكل من الأشكال، وانا قلت إنني مع لبنان دائرة واحدة". "لكنهم يريدون مشروعاً يقصونه على القياس".
وعما اذا كان ثمة "خشية من بقاء قانون 1960، لأن (رئيس "جبهة النضال الوطني" النائب وليد) جنبلاط هو بيضة القبان"، قال عون لـ"الاخبار" ليس عندي بيضة قبان، بل يجب أن تكون هناك أكثرية تصلح الوضع. لا يجوز أن يوقف نائب او اثنان قانون النسبية. قلنا في الدوحة إن قانون 1960 لمرة واحدة".
الى ذلك، اعلن رئيس "تكتل التغيير والاصلاح"، عن رفضه التمديد لرئيس الجمهورية او اعادة انتخابه، قائلاً "انا ضد اي تمديد، مهما كان، من العسكري الصغير الى الكبير"، موضحاً "حتى يحصل التمديد يجب أن يكون استثنائياً. واذا حدث امر استنثائي نمدد، وإلا فحين تنتهي الدورة الطبيعية تكون قد انتهت".
يُشار الى ان لجنة بكركي التي تمثل الكتل المسيحية الاربعة (الكتائب والقوات والتيار الوطني الحر والمردة) لم تتفق بعد على طرح حول الانتخابات يرضي كافة اطرافها، وقد شهدت الآونة الاخيرة مناوشات بين اعضائها حيث تم تبادل الاتهامات في الالتفاف على "لجنة بكركي".
يُذكر ان مجلس الوزراء، أقر مطلع آب الفائت، قانونا للإنتخاب يعتمد النسبية في 13 دائرة إنتخابية.(بيروت: دائرتان، الجنوب: دائرتان، البقاع: 3 دوائر، الشمال: 3 دوائر، وجبل لبنان: 3 دوائر).
OMG! He is sold to the Iranians to the bones!
“Militias are used in all world countries to assist the army in its duties,” He's probably refering to the Pasdaran :)
By the way General, the Pasdaran are based in Lebanon in Ras al-Aïn (Baalbek). They also have bases in Tyr, Aïn Boussawr, Mlita (Djebel Safi) and Macheghara (West Beka'a ). Their commander in chief in Lebanon is Assadalah Hadji Reza Asgar (" Abou Asager ").
“The resistance does not play a security role, but it intervenes when the army fails in tackling a security development.”
What about May 7th?
Mr Aoun, stop de-moralizing the Army and stop using these scare tactics just to get few more votes...
The Lebanese people are not falling for your BS anymore...and I hate to tell you that Damascus is not safe for you anymore so I suggest you get your one-way ticket to Tehran...
Traitor... you sold the blood of the army marthyrs for your personal gains...shame on you!!!
Maybe HE didn't sell the martyr's blood... maybe he spilled it? Afterall, he's a close acquaintance of Mister Assad.
FT what evidence do you have, and u can go back to Jesus Christ if you want, that Israel intends to INVADE Lebanon?
I'll help you a little so you don't put your foot in it. 1.Israel in the 80's attack Palestinians in Lebanon in order to prevent them from launching attacks against it from Lebanon territory after the Palestinians force the Lebanese' hand with violence if they ddn't allow them to remain armed and attack israel..2 IDF set up the SLA to safeguard the southern borders and prevent scum like the Palestinians and our southern brothers from attackng them , The SLA did not attack the Lebanese and take over their lands and evict them or burn house or commit murders nor did they extend the israeli border.
3 ..2006. Israel attacks HA strongholds and strategic telecommication/transportation sites to retrieve captured soldiers an act instigated by HA... Any damaged to Lebanon and the Lebanese was a direct result of their actions to the above. Now who is at fault? and What evidence do you have that Israel will INVADE Lebanon?
“Militias are used in all world countries to assist the army in its duties,” Now you are talking like this ya wate, what about the militia that you fought back in the days and weakened the christians of Lebanon forever. wahad bal wafa wou akhlek. That army that you were once part off can very well protect Lebanon if it has the right weapons to do so.
My dear FlameThrower, first of all I'm not an LF guy, had you followed my other comments on other articles you would have read clearly that I was with Aoun and got beaten many times during our sit-ins and for what I wonder today? You criticize others for being blind but I see that you are blind too just like the rest of them. Yes 3ayb wou mit 3ayb 3ala Aoun ysir yehke heik 3an el jesh woul milishya. I was born in Achrafieh and still reside there and I saw what the war between the two bala mokh Aoun and Jaajaa led us. and yes we will always talk in Lebanon about Christians, and Sunnis and Chiite because each one of those sect has a different agenda for the country and its becoming near impossible to co-existe until we start saying Lebanon first
Flame your comments are starting to sound very irratic and uneducated. If you keep insisting on reminding us of history not the present or what lays ahead in the future then you are still living the dream of aoun the saviour. That dream went up in a helicopter after he commited treason against his own kind. We were occupied by a foreign force ie Assad , LF were the only true resistance to this so why did he want to dissarm them not work with them like he is doing with HA? ego maybe, self interest,or just plain stupid.. now ask yourself where is the threat that justifies him siding with a foreign militia.. 1.5Mil shias maybe = the presidential chair? think about it.
Mister Aoun remembers very well how weak our army is, because since He fled like Arafat did a few years before him He did nothing else but weaken it. This corrupt politician (who should be stripped of his military ranking) doesn't want to live in a pacified Lebanon... He wants to see weapons wandering in the streets, abductions happening in every corner of Lebanon....
there were no such thing as M14 between 1992 and 2005, remember? only a gvt under the orders of your syrian friends, you should be happy as you support them, so blame the syrians for weakening the army not M14.... M14 couldn t do a thing as it didn t exist!
always twisting facts aren t you to suit your views...
remember what aoun said that under the syrian rule even the most honest politician had to obey them or else die...remember your CPL friends who dared rise against syrians and were beaten or sent in the syrian jails?
so even the anti syrians now had to obey or go in exile or die.(orangina said that too remember?) but at least they changed and are now aware that the syrian regime is no good for lebanon unlike your puppet who always stood against them and now licks their feet..
so who is the worse?
funny how your propaganda let you think that all chiaa are hezbis.... lots of them are forced or opposed...i have like it or not many friends that are shias and viscerally opposed to hezbollah or amal because they want to be free and not alienated by them!
aoun returned to lebanon under the sole condition from SYRIA that he wouldn t ally with geagea or hariri... otherwise he would be a dead man. educate yourself.
and also you should return to school to learn how to read and understand otherwise than through your orange prisma....
stupid orangina...
hezb as a militia should not be armed! in any civilized country there s no such thing as militias even less armed parties that decide the fate of the country!
hezb takes advantage of its weapons to dictate the gvt what they should do! if he and his followers were truly lebanese and patriots they wouldn t accept a political party to have the right to decide war or peace! only the state can do that!
hezbis arms should go to the army and under its strict command!
we see how this militia defends lebanon against attacks and bombings from their syrian friends! double standards...
we ve seen how they used their weapons in may, and backed their prosyrian militias! even if as some claimed moustaqbal did everything then it is the duty of the army ONLY to restore order! certainly not a militia...
tfeh!
no it isn t! you can compare lebanon with any other country...
let me remind you that before hezbollah came the shias were the most free and partying people in lebanon! they drank alcohol, had no ruler to tell them what to do and the south was the most liberated region in lebanon...
all the problems in the south came from the shias MP who didn t want them to evolve to keep them under their control. all the water problem was a big divide between coastal shias and land shias. nothing to do with israel....
once again educate yourself....
more uneducated ramblings that have been well drilled into you by your masters FT. you are lost in history again. 10452 was under a united lebanon against foreign incursions, ie syria,israel, usa etc.. Partioning is a by product of the shit hole life Hezb has offered for our kids and their kids. You and your kind may have honourable intentions but your execution is very scary.
Militias are used in all world countries to assist the army in its duties,” remarked the FPM leader
Only in Iran you Idiot...It seems that you are truly brainwashed
you are all so funny, sitting here abroad reading u make my day always. what a bunch of uneducated followers. 3anjad bidahko! its better then my Allo Allo comedy serie. As if any of you has a political science degree debating these war lords comments. they are all just war lords, they live in peace times preparing for their next wars and your beloved Lebanon is still in the middle ages ... just because these lords of war all of them want you all to remain uneducated followers , sheeps screaming their names and they buy ur votes and you call it a democracy in the middle east. Shame you do not enjoy my democracy here! hilarious bunch full of hate and no respect to human value... you are such a funny bunch!
Question is why to prepare for war if you can prepare for peace?
It the interest of both sides to keep quiet.
The problem is that those who claim to defend Lebanon are those who destroying it by following their masters' voice, the Iranian.
Lebanon is hijacked by those terror , drug dealers.
Its against their interest to keep Lebanon in flames.
Problem is that they will provoke Israel and those who will pay the price will be the Lebanese people.
Israel has no wish to destroy Lebanon.
Borders for many years were quiet till Lebanon became a soft and warm nest to terror groups used Lebanon as a base to target Israel.
Lebanon paid the price. Why again?
Israel never attacked Lebanon without provacation. So, what is Aoun alluding to? lebanon's territories had all been liberated, dave Shabaa farms which is in dispute between Syria and Lebanon. Aoun had lost his mind and is really in need of mental assessment. It's a pitty to have someone like him representing a part of the Christian community. He's strayed big time and I hope he departs peacefully as he's an old man with many health problem. i hope God takes him soon to save us Christians from his wayward practices.
i wonder what M8 would think if moustaqbal gets heavily armed as hezbollah is to defend the northern border in the name of resistance....
being attacked by a foreign army justifies this no? as the army isn t doing a thing. it is the exact same case!!!
they support the shelling of chrsitian villages and are proud of it! but they would cry like virgins if the same thing happened in the south!
as long as we have morons like him believing that a political party has the right of being armed more than our army , we cannot have an independent and sovereign state! they only weaken the state by not giving it the right to be the only defender of peace or war but gives it to a party that doesn t respect the lebanese constitution! when they defend a party that openly says that they don t give a damn to the results of elections, we see what kind of democrats they are. just at the orders of a foreign country and spitting on their own.
they are just traitors and collaborators.
The initial premise that Israel wants to attack Lebanon is incorrect.
Israel has on more than one occasion stated that it wants to live in peace and tranquility with the Republic of Lebanon.
Israel and Lebanon even signed an agreement in the 1980's but this was quickly torn up by the Lebanese Government.
Israel's only disagreement with Lebanon is over Hizballah. Both Israel and Lebanon know that this terrorist organisation, with its leader stuck in his rat hole underground, is one single organisation working day and night to undermine Lebanese peace and security.
And I thought Romney was stupid. This guy can't even get reality correct. What country other than Iran has a militia as part of its national defense? He cited the Free French Forces during WWII?? This was when the official French Government was a Nazi Occupation government, the Vichie French and the Free French were fighting the occupation. To make the analogy, Aoun would have to mean that the Mikati Government is a Vichie Syrian Occupation Government and Hezbollah is fighting against Syria. What a complete and total babbling incompetent.
He gave the example of the French resistance against Nazi Germany during World War II.... Does this idiot actually understand WWII history. we do not live under the rule of an invading country.
Asked if Iran would request Hizbullah's assistance to respond to any Israeli attack, Aoun replied that Israel explained that the military maneuvers it had recently conducted were aimed at confronting Hizbullah, Syria, and Iran.... That is correct Idiot hezb not Lebnan!! so stop insulting our intelligence and start differentiating between the two like you did when you set out to dissarm the only true christian force in the country while Syria was still occupying us.
Question is if Lebanon really needs the Hezbulla to defend its borders from Israel. As the ball is all in Lebanon's hands since many years.
Instead of preparation to confront Israel with war, why don't you offer instead to live in peace? Isn't it the interest of both countries to have a quiet border for the prosperity of Lebanon same for north of Israel?. there is no dispute and no significant territorial dispute, as if any can be settled sitting to the table and not to run for war. as both sides will only lose but Lebanon will lose more.
Time for the Arabian leaders to be brave like president Sadat and King Hussein who said enough is enough.
When you fight with Iranian ideology you cease to be Lebanese it doesn't matter where your weapons are from. That is the difference between LF and HA genius. Why don't we ask America to arm us in case Iran invades Lebanon to get at Israel? What evidence do you have that Israel will Invade Lebanon?
Let's see--how about making peace with Israel and forcing that HA scum to move to 'protect' Iran. The general fails to mention that HA started the 2006 war and the so called 'victory' resulted in over 1000 Lebanese being killed and close to $12 billion in damages to the country.
Obviously, HA and their allies should spend a few minutes researching the word "victory" before making their speeches.
I'm sure that if we split this into two parts -
1. Making peace with Israel - this will be easy. Neither side has territorial or other claims on the other.
2. Forcing HA to move to Iran - in the present circumstances, only an all out war between the Lebanese Army and HA will bring this about.
The resistance and the army complement each is other like peanut butter and jelly. Militias are used to assist the army. But he relegated the army to a policing duties and gave the militia the main duties of defending and liberating. That's a vote of confidence to the army from an ex-general. So who decides when the militia's duties start and end? The state or the militia?
The ex-General is a wanna be Napolean. He is Lebanon's Little Napolean. He has ambitions beyond his tiny structure and Lebanon's shores. He's a student of history and harkens back to the days of glorious conquests. Maybe he wants to bring back the glory of the Persian empire. He will conquer Israel and keep moving east until he's in the embrace of Ahmadinejad. Bear hugs all around. Can someone give the ex-General a dunce cap so he can be off on his conquests.
Aoun: Army Incapable of Defending Lebanon against Israeli Assault
That's cause you moron never trained them to !! Tfeh !
You should be placed in front an army shooting squad for your admitting to your own failure as a Lebanese General.
He is trying to tell people that as a lesson learned from history when he declared "Harb el Tahreer" that the Army needed the LF as resistance yet he himself screwed up at that time especially when each family was divided and the brother fought the cousin because of his short vision and imposed war at that time, If you needed the resistance to protect Lebanon from Israel then we need another resistance in the North and Bekaa to protect against the Syrian aggression you short sighted?