حزب الله "يسير بما يقرره عون" كونه "مدير مشروع الرئاسة"
Read this story in Englishجدد "حزب الله" بالتعاون مع "التيار الوطني الحر" ثقتهم برئيس التيار النائب ميشال عون وتفويضه ملف الانتخابات الرئاسية كونه "مدير مشروع الرئاسة".
والسبت، نقلت صحيفة "الشرق الاوسط" عن مصادر 8 آذار قولها انه خلال اللقاء الذي عقد بين عون والأمين العام لـ"حزب الله" السيد حسن نصرالله، في الضاحية الجنوبية لبيروت الخميس "تم تجديد تفويض عون بالملف الرئاسي".
وبعد ان توافق الطرفان على ان عون هو "مدير مشروع الرئاسة"، اكد الحزب بدوره انه " يسير بما يقرره الاخير وما يوافق عليه".
وفي السياق عينه، لفتت مصادر "الشرق الاوسط" انه تم الاتفاق بين الزعيمين على 3 نقاط أساسية: "الأولى، تمت تلقائيا تقضي بتوثيق التفاهم بين الحزبين والتأكيد عليه بعد ما تردد في وسائل الإعلام عن خلافات بينهما".
واشارت المصادر الى ان النقطة الثانية تشدد على " ضرورة التصدّي المشترك للملفات الداخلية بدءا بموضوع الرئاسة ووصولاً إلى آخر تفصيل محلي" لافتةًالى انه جرى التأكيد على "الحفاظ على هامش من الخصوصية والمناورة لكل فريق".
وفي ما يخص النقطة الثالثة فهي تتمحور حول "مبدأ أن الإرهاب الذي لا يهدّد فئة أو طائفة معينة، بل الكيان اللبناني برمته".
ويعيش لبنان منذ ايار 2014 فراغاً رئاسياً في سدة الرئاسة الاولى، لرفض الرئيس السابق ميشال سليمان تمديد ولايته وفشل النواب في التوافق على اسم رئيس.
ويدعم رئيس "الحزب التقدمي الاشتراكي" النائب وليد جنبلاط مرشح "اللقاء" الديمقراطي" النائب هنري حلو في المعركة الرئاسية، وسط دعم فريق 8 آذار، لرئيس "تكتل التغيير والاصلاح" النائب ميشال عون، في حين يخوض فريق 14 آذار المعركة الرئاسية بمرشحه رئيس "حزب القوات اللبنانية" سمير جعجع.
ك.ك.
Funny. Really funny. Caporal supporters keep insulting KSA while their boss is begging and kissing the hands of KSA!!! Isn't it strange?
"a kingdom of obscurantism, pedophilia and repression..." is this not a description of Iran????
How can people become brainwashed to such a high degree and no longer be able to see that Iran equates with the most backaged civilization???
Caporal is a traitor to the Christians. He hopes by being a servant to Ebola and Iran he will be president. But he is a loser and will never achieve anything. His mental illness will explode and he will end up in an asylum for mad people.
president of the united states of America Mr Barak Obama said
-iran is not a threat to the gulf countries their threat are from within
-the fire of Libya is fulled by gulf countries
god bless America
god bless democracy
Executive Summary of the presidential file:
Elect Aoun president, or no president. The end.
mystic, It is not Wahhabis that are loved. It's Assad and what he did when Syria occupied us that is hated more. It is a feeling that KSA did less to hurt us than Syria which is sponsored by Iran which you are sponsored by. I can say that all M14 Christians really dislike KSA deep down and really tram with the, because they believe in the Sunni moderates. M14 Christians have to team with someone when you are surrounded as a minoirty and they believe this alliance is a better bet then with Iran. I personally am not comfortable with teaming with moderate Sunni then allowing KSA a strong presence who hates my cross. At the same time I don't want to go back to Syrian intelligence telling me what I can and can't say, kidnapping, assassinating anyone who has different politics...
Also HA harasses liquor stores in the South. So you have you extremists that sound like Wahhabis too. You cannot do this in a diverse country either. We don't do anything to tell you how to live. If you want to parade during Ashoura I don't really care. If you want to cover your women head to toe I don't really care. We don't bother you. Let me drink my arak in peace in Jezzine and Tyre without threats. I hope this helps you understand that there is no love for Wahhabi from anyone but them.
(1). FT, calm down ya man, no need for all this anger. I am one who may agree with you, but only to some degree. Whereas you said that they are Lebanese and are defending us from Israel, when was that ya bro, when? Look, let's all be honest and frank with our views, Israel has repeatedly said it, time and time again that it seeks NO ill towards us Lebanese provided that we leave it in peace. It has repeatedly said that it is ready to sit with us and return us our lands through negotiations and this without even having to fire a bullet. Of course, Hezbollah sees no survival through dialog as only the Lebanese state can do dialog. Then whenever Hezbollah attacked Israel, where on earth is Hezbollah or Aoun's protection?
(2). FT. When Israel flies over us routinely, where is your Hezbollah and the old claoun? About IS, Hezbollah or Michel Aoun are literally doing zilch to protect Lebanon, on the contrary, there was a time one could have taken this explanation of yours in good faith, but it turns out that almost none of that is true. The truer reality is in fact that Hezbollah is screws up then the Lebanese Army has the unenviable task to clean up the sh*t of Hezbollah, (please excuse my Greek). Fact is yaaaa FT, for you and your side, the fact is that it is the lebanese Army that is protecting Lebanon, not you, not Hezbollah and certainly not that mentally dead jester of yours Aoun. Hezbollah is trying to help protect its boss in Damascus, but truth is that it is barely capable of holding to territory these days.
(4). Instead of you ya FT plus the other Hezbollah/FPM partisans of this forum keep calling others by such utterly silly names, describing them in ways only you know why, why can't you just engage in polite and respectful debates? Haven't you realized why you guys keep getting banned? Then why all this anger, are you people Gods or what? You people are the masters of screwing up, then when sh*t hits the ceiling you run to borrow our own umbrellas, why? Are you people above the law, man's law and God's law or have you become too used to behave like real thugs? Either way, you people are losing all that left of popular sympathy, and by default that also means your losing support.
(3). FT. The truth is yaaa FT is that Hezbollah is losing many precious lives, Lebanese lives for wars that are not ours in the first place, now yo tell me WIH (what in heavens) is Hezbollah doing in Yemen? Would it not have been a zillion times better if Hezbollah joined forces with its Lebanese siblings, helped rebuild our economy, helped to elect a real human being as president, then when evil terrorist groups like IS, ISIS, Al Nusra and other takfiris want to try their luck in Lebanon, we will all easily make Marshmallows of them all? Instead, your self-styled iconic leader, Sayed Hassan and his lackey Aoun the claoun have opted for standing with the non-Lebanese.
(5). This brazen and uncouth language coming from your side does nothing but reverse all forms of fortune you may once had with the world, starting from your fellow Lebanese, now that bombs and bullets are replying to your meddling in other parts of the world, God may you hope to find a place to fall back to in Lebanon. I am telling you this in no uncertain terms, a day could well come when even in Lebanon hostility is the only reception you would ever get. In due time, You, Sayed Hassan, Aoun and in general the M8 alliance are all set for some mammoth surprises and all very negative ones too, rest assured. Your Napoleonic behavior is now costing you all your very survival, let's remind each other of that in the future.
zahle, it's a good thing you bring these matters up for discussion. I would like to tell you, that christians in the South and Bekaa areas enjoys their freedom, you should go to their areas yourself, you will see their fridges filled with XXL and Wiedmann etc. You should stop listening to Geageas propaganda for once in your life. I know you are reasonable, so you know the takfiris that the KSA sponsors are the worst kind out there.
I have no problems with you drinking, going on beaches and have crosses. I respect your life, just don't support my enemies KSA and Israel then We are all cool.
zahle1, by the way forget about Syria already. Why do you guys still live in the past? We do not live in the 80's and 90's any longer.
We live in a new era, Syria is gone from Lebanon. While you keep on hating them, a real enemy is emerging, that enemy doesn't even care to control you, but they will burn your churches, rape your women and break your crosses. Look around, is that what you want?
وثقت الشبكة السورية لحقوق الإنسان استهداف أطراف عديدة للكنائس في سوريا، يقف على رأسها النظام السوري الذي يتحمل مسؤولية استهداف 63 بالمئة من تلك الكنائس (46 كنيسة).
وأحصت الشبكة، في تقرير مطوّل، 63 كنيسة استهدفت بالقصف والتدمير على يد أطراف النزاع منذ اندلاع الثورة السورية عام 2011، حيث يتحمل النظام مسؤولية تدمير 40 منها.
كما وثقت الشبكة ما لا يقل عن 11 كنيسة تم تحويلها إلى ثكنات عسكرية ومقرات، بينما كانت أيضاً قوات الأسد مسؤولة عن تعرض 6 منها لانتهاكات.
So, they agreed that Aoun would keep the Lebanese Government paralyzed (Aoun is in charge of the "presidential file"), and would continue to take the blame for that. And that Aoun will keep his mouth shut while Hezbollah prosecutes Iran's defense of the Assad Regime and the Yemen Project (agrees to allow maximum flexibility of action by the other party).
In other words they agreed to keep doing what they are doing to advance their own interests while together continuing the slow destruction of the Lebanese State. All the while shouting that they are "patriots" and wrapping themselves in the flag. And the crowd cheered on stuffing Iranian dollars in their pockets.
Mystic, I appreciate your sentiments. I agree in the bekka we are good, I go there frequently. However, I have many people in the South, and it is not propaganda. There is propaganda, don't get me wrong. But I know of many restaurants and liquor stores that receive threats. It might not be a big deal to you. But I am telling you that HA drives around in trucks full of young men unmarked in Christian areas, and the people know who they are. It is intimidating sometimes. I do think the takfiri are worse however. It was just the early 2000s that Syria was doing these things. Don't you remember the LF was outlawed, the opposition could not say a word. Yes they are gone but, if it was up to them, they would want to be back.
I have Syrian friends at church who admit it is all about "Syrian Nationalism" why they were in Lebanon. We can agree to disagree, but many of us believe that if they had the opportunity that they would be back tomorrow. At the same time I agree a greater enemy is emerging right now. No doubt.
barrymore, ofcourse you listen to London based opposition supported people. You do not look at the facts on the ground, ask Christians from those areas hear what they say. The takfiris are even proud of it and they are not hiding it. All you have is Geagea the wahabis stooge, to tell you what is right from wrong.
Statue of Virgin mary broken:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLZFhNcHFAo
Largest massacre of Christians ignored in Syria:
http://www.christianpost.com/news/largest-massacre-of-christians-in-syria-ignored-109566/
http://www.catholic.org/news/international/middle_east/story.php?id=53030/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC5_YrvNbp0
Zahle my friend, I believe the LF propaganda machine has got you on the hook, yet not completely, because I have seen some of your comments regarding Nusra and ISIS on our borders, that is the reason I take my time with you now.
Have you witnessed any of that in the South? I can say I have been to Christian areas there in Jnoub in a resturant too, also at Hermel. Both had families both Shia and Christian kids playing by the pool, nobody said anything to the families that had alcohol by their tables, they drink without disturbing others, so what business is that of mine?
I don't drink myself, but I have no problem with you drinking next to me if that is what you want.
I am sure in Hermel it is fine. In the Bekka it is fine. I have friends in the Jezzine burbs who experienced this. This is a well known fact in Tyre as well. I have plenty of friends who have experienced this. I am glad you don't feel it is an issue. I have many Shiite friends here in Dearborn who don't care about it. However, not everyone in South Lebanon has the same sentiment as you my friend and may tolerate a few lingering Christians to live there but are against liquor. There is this more extreme element that is not PC for HA supporters to admit but exists. Its like denying that there are no ISIS supporters in Lebanon. We all know deep down they are there but it is politics to deny it, and blame it elsewhere. Its a real problem.
Are you sure that it was actual Hezbollah members Zahle1? Can your friends confirm that? I doubt it completely and I simply don't believe in it.
In many areas in Sour, there are churches that stands without any problem, not many Christians lives there. Do you see them being demolished? Do you see pictures of Issa and Maryam Al 3adra removed? No because that is against our faith, we believe in them aswell.
You can't compare it with ISIS at all, because ISIS & Nusra are real the other matter you mentioned are rumors. Deep down, you probaly know Hezbollah aren't so bad as people around you says.
Mystic, you are missing my point. First off, you have never heard me say ISIS is worse. Second, I agree churches and religious icons and churches are fine in all HA areas. So I don't think anyone is claiming that. I was just at a Shiite friends repair shop and even he admitted they HA goes unmarked when it does these things. It does not threaten in the name of HA. I don't think HA deserves a cookie for allowing churches and religion to coexist where they are strong. That is how it is supposed to go. This is the gap. I can admit certain double standards that exist but others cannot. Its like me telling you Israel does not want the water the Litani and if you disarm they will leave our resources alone. Most M14 will never admit that threat I will. Look HA does these things and does not overtly commit any crimes against churches, but many in the South are intimidated.
I have been to Rmeish and Ain Ible myself and have seen the patrols myself "unmarked". I did not know who they were but the villagers do. It is to let there presense be known. I will admit there are no liquor problems in Rmeish/Ain Ible area. Just intimidation. They roam around like they own it though.
Typo, meant to say that "you never heard me say HA is worse." I believe ISIS is 100x worse.
Well, nobody said anything about deserving cookies zahle, but your Geagea says ISIS and Hezbollah are two sides of the same coin. So you do not believe in him then?
I still do not believe in rumors and masked men, it sounds more like paranoid delusion than reality. What does people in Dearborn know about things that happens in Lebanon? They are so many miles away.
My whole point to this conversation is, that how come so many of the so called Christians do not support the Resistance going to fight the takfiris in Syria? Do you rather want to wait for them to invade Lebanon instead?
I believe too that all those old buildings should stand, no matter who is strong there. Which is what you see in those areas. Don't give me that about Hezbollah presence and all that, ofcourse they do, it's the South. Go to Achrafieh in Beirut or even Zahle, you will see LF walking around there as they own the place aswell.
Mystic, I believe you if you tell me that you do not have any issue with a Christian presence in the South. I do not believe that HA has an issue with it either. Because most have already left. That is why. However, I would love to ask your leader if he has a problem with liquor stores, and restaurants with liquor in the South. I would love him to issue an edict to leave them alone.